July 25, 2008
- Lizard People? -
Its not lizard people.
Its not the moon.
Its us.
We ruin things, when things are getting good. We pull apart the civilizations and the things we make.
It’s out fault when things collapse. We do not take care of them. We do not adjust as the world changes, because we see ourselves as separate from it. We are both above and in it, and it is through taking care of it and ourselves that we grow spiritually. Entropy becomes the projected shadow. This is what we are here to struggle against.
If we struggle, we die and perhaps are reborn.
How do we struggle, becomes the question. Learn how you are to struggle and your life has meaning.
How do you strive for the good, when everyone’s projections (both shadow and light) get placed upon you. The organ Kundabuffer, Gurdjieff called it. We just cannot face it. We rise and fall like a pile of moving rocks. It is difficult to get the balance right, so that it lasts. It is an imperfect emergent behavior. It is our job to judge each piece we add to the the pile, and gauge its suitability.
Through this struggle, perhaps we gain our self. By losing our “self”, by struggling with the inner resistance, we gain a “self”.
Or not. Perhaps we just die. Either way, life has more meaning.
actually it is the lizard people. Its us and the lizard people. Its an Hegelain dialectic between us and the lizard people.
Comment by Ted — May 29, 2009 @ 2:25 pm
i don’t see any real difference between what you’re saying and what I’m saying, Ted…
Comment by Ian — May 30, 2009 @ 9:31 am
I see a difference between not paying attention and falling over a cliff and not paying attention and being preyed on by a predator.
Comment by Ted — May 30, 2009 @ 11:07 am
There just sociopaths. That’s all they are. There is a simple explanation for it. And if you have a sociopath in your life, deceiving you, you might have a dream and they will be a reptile or a spider or a scorpion or something. This is your subconscious revealing this to you. The reptile is an archetype. But There are bad people in the world.
Comment by Ted — May 30, 2009 @ 11:56 am
Yeah, I hear you. In my of looking at the world though, I find that personally I can’t see any actual person I meet as “bad”, it just doesn’t work for me. Not that there aren’t bad people or at least people doing bad things, but I find that when I think of someone a bad person, I block any chance of seeing anything good about them. And having a category of “lizard people” just makes me more likely to classify someone that way. Why create that distinction to begin with? It’s just not one that I find useful, although you seem to and that’s fine!
For me, the worse thing you can do is mistake someone who’s only mostly bad for someone who’s completely bad, cause that just reinforces their badness. Meanwhile, I try to live as honestly, openly, and awarefully as possible, so as to minimize the amount of bad people I come into contact with.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that people such as those child-raping elites you’ve mentioned before aren’t bad, just that we have to stop seeing the world as a place where people like that can have and hold power. We have to update our value system in some way, so that that kind of dark path isn’t even a useful option anymore.
Comment by Ian — May 30, 2009 @ 1:51 pm
We are the blocks. The tension is between co-operation and personal integrity. The proper tension is what creates a holarchy as opposed to heterarchy or a hierarchy. Holarchies are structures created by sovereign individuals by mutual agrement. A heterarchy is just a flat shapeless blob, a hierarchy is about domination and exploitation.
I don’t think losing yourself is good. The what arhiman and Lucifer work together is to get people at the bottom to lose themselves in the herd so that they can be exploited by luciferic individuals at the top.
People need to have a little more of the devil in them on an individual level. That protects people from the lizards. That’s my opinion.
Comment by Ted — May 30, 2009 @ 1:54 pm
Ian,
I didn’t see comment number 5 until just now. I was just continuing my thought. I think dealing with sociopaths comes down to just maintaining personal boundaries. You don’t have to assume anything. People are bad to the degree that they want to violate your person.
Sociopaths are ego-centric and they see you as an object they can use to aggrandize their ego. So we all have this semipermeable membrane. The goal of the psychopath is to get past it in order to invade you and get you to become thrall to them.
Elite psychopaths do this by getting us to surrender our personal sovereignty to the “greater good” which is just their good over our good ultimately.
Comment by Ted — May 30, 2009 @ 3:20 pm
Yeah, that’s my strategy as well, ideally anyway. Try to be as honest and open as possible, and people like that won’t want to have anything to do with you.
If they do come to “invade you”, and you treat them kindly and openly, while making sure you’re aware enough to not let them in (maintaining personal boundaries), they’ll just think you’re stupid because they’ve completely blocked off those parts of themselves. Address yourself to the good in them, and if they can’t see that good, they won’t know what to do with you. They’ll just think of you as weak, because you refuse to play the game they think they are stuck in.
They’ll only really attack you if they see you as a threat. If you work from a place of true honesty and openness, they won’t understand it’s a threat until it’s way too late. But show them the littlest bit of hostility and suddenly you’re playing a game they can recognize, and chances are they’re better at it than you are.
That’s my way of looking at it, anyway.
And as for “losing yourself”, there are many different ways to do so, some good, some bad. It all depends of what you’re trying to get rid of, and why you’re trying to get rid of it…
Comment by Ian — May 30, 2009 @ 3:56 pm
Well, psychopaths, recognize other psychopaths and they also recognize the work of previous psychopaths such as cultural artifacts. Psychopaths have infiltrated all religions. There is all kinds of cultural programming and conditioning that’s gone on. So that means that some people are laying there like an open book ready to be manipulated by whatever psychopath comes along, due to cultural conditioning and programming all ready in place.
So if you meet a psychopath they will test you and see how much “bullshit” you believe, how gullible you are. They will size you up really quickly. They may dominate you by getting you to feel sorry for them or they will present themselves as an authority figure. The smarter ones get into positions of authority, the priesthood, Politics, teaching, nursing, a lot become therapists believe it or not, many are in sales. Probably all good sales techniques were invented by psychopaths.
So I don’t know if being open and honest is good. You aren’t going to melt them with love and kindness and being open and honest can set you up to be a mark. I think on a practical level, most black people have a good way of dealing with them. There are a lot of psychopaths in the ghetto. So people develop a way of being assertive and not being controlled by other people.
You don’t have to be hostile just assertive and they will move on to an easier mark. But slowly but surely though, they have infiltrated positions of authority. So there comes a time for confrontation.
I think we need to go back to our roots as rugged individuals.
Comment by Ted — May 30, 2009 @ 6:06 pm