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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: cleadiolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>cleadiolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to materialize here. Good day or night everybody!  

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to materialize here. Good day or night everybody!  </p>
<p>Sure, you’ve heard about me, because my fame is running in front of me,<br />
my parents call me Nikolas.<br />
Generally I’m a venturesome gambler. recently I take a great interest in  online-casino and poker.<br />
Not long time ago I started my own blog, where I describe my virtual adventures.<br />
Probably, it will be interesting for you to read my notes.<br />
Please visit my web page . <a href="http://allbestcasino.com" rel="nofollow">http://allbestcasino.com</a> I’ll be interested on your opinion..</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: speedbird</title>
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		<dc:creator>speedbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 09:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.amazon.com/Void-Frank-Close/dp/0199225907/

I guess some bits of this little book are a bit /too/ concise, but then it does have a go at a whole heck of a lot of cool stuff!</description>
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<p>I guess some bits of this little book are a bit /too/ concise, but then it does have a go at a whole heck of a lot of cool stuff!</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Bryanton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Bryanton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 17:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ian, nice blog. I&#039;ve posted a link to your blog in my &quot;Interesting Links&quot; section at my Imagining the Tenth Dimension blog. 

Always nice to hear that other people are developing these ideas. Yes, absolutely, with this way of visualizing, every aspect of our reality is ultimately information, and with each lower dimension you are selecting a subset of that data, honing things down finer and finer until you arrive at the 3D world we see around us (and of course you can keep honing down from there to the point of indeterminate size, where we start and end, as I discuss in the blog entry I posted today, &quot;A Point Within the Omniverse&quot;).

Nice to hear that you&#039;ve been looking at my material. Here&#039;s some other entries you might find helpful in your questions about reality, data, and dimensions, some of which you may not have run across yet. 

Thanks for writing!

Rob

http://imaginingthetenthdimension.blogspot.com/2008/06/local-realism-bites-dust.html

http://imaginingthetenthdimension.blogspot.com/2008/05/fifth-dimension-isnt-magic.html

http://imaginingthetenthdimension.blogspot.com/2008/06/wormholes.html

http://imaginingthetenthdimension.blogspot.com/2007/11/e8-and-semantic-web.html

http://imaginingthetenthdimension.blogspot.com/2008/11/imagining-omniverse.html

http://imaginingthetenthdimension.blogspot.com/2008/11/big-bang-and-big-pie.html

http://imaginingthetenthdimension.blogspot.com/2008/09/why-do-we-need-more-than-3-dimensions.html

http://imaginingthetenthdimension.blogspot.com/2008/09/time-in-3-dimensions.html

http://imaginingthetenthdimension.blogspot.com/2008/08/twisted-dimensions.html

http://imaginingthetenthdimension.blogspot.com/2008/08/unlikely-events-and-timelessness.html

http://imaginingthetenthdimension.blogspot.com/2008/06/randomness-and-missing-96-per-cent.html

http://imaginingthetenthdimension.blogspot.com/2008/07/what-would-linelander-really-see.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ian, nice blog. I&#8217;ve posted a link to your blog in my &#8220;Interesting Links&#8221; section at my Imagining the Tenth Dimension blog. </p>
<p>Always nice to hear that other people are developing these ideas. Yes, absolutely, with this way of visualizing, every aspect of our reality is ultimately information, and with each lower dimension you are selecting a subset of that data, honing things down finer and finer until you arrive at the 3D world we see around us (and of course you can keep honing down from there to the point of indeterminate size, where we start and end, as I discuss in the blog entry I posted today, &#8220;A Point Within the Omniverse&#8221;).</p>
<p>Nice to hear that you&#8217;ve been looking at my material. Here&#8217;s some other entries you might find helpful in your questions about reality, data, and dimensions, some of which you may not have run across yet. </p>
<p>Thanks for writing!</p>
<p>Rob</p>
<p><a href="http://imaginingthetenthdimension.blogspot.com/2008/06/local-realism-bites-dust.html" rel="nofollow">http://imaginingthetenthdimension.blogspot.com/2008/06/local-realism-bites-dust.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://imaginingthetenthdimension.blogspot.com/2008/05/fifth-dimension-isnt-magic.html" rel="nofollow">http://imaginingthetenthdimension.blogspot.com/2008/05/fifth-dimension-isnt-magic.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://imaginingthetenthdimension.blogspot.com/2008/06/wormholes.html" rel="nofollow">http://imaginingthetenthdimension.blogspot.com/2008/06/wormholes.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://imaginingthetenthdimension.blogspot.com/2007/11/e8-and-semantic-web.html" rel="nofollow">http://imaginingthetenthdimension.blogspot.com/2007/11/e8-and-semantic-web.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://imaginingthetenthdimension.blogspot.com/2008/11/imagining-omniverse.html" rel="nofollow">http://imaginingthetenthdimension.blogspot.com/2008/11/imagining-omniverse.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://imaginingthetenthdimension.blogspot.com/2008/11/big-bang-and-big-pie.html" rel="nofollow">http://imaginingthetenthdimension.blogspot.com/2008/11/big-bang-and-big-pie.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://imaginingthetenthdimension.blogspot.com/2008/09/why-do-we-need-more-than-3-dimensions.html" rel="nofollow">http://imaginingthetenthdimension.blogspot.com/2008/09/why-do-we-need-more-than-3-dimensions.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://imaginingthetenthdimension.blogspot.com/2008/09/time-in-3-dimensions.html" rel="nofollow">http://imaginingthetenthdimension.blogspot.com/2008/09/time-in-3-dimensions.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://imaginingthetenthdimension.blogspot.com/2008/08/twisted-dimensions.html" rel="nofollow">http://imaginingthetenthdimension.blogspot.com/2008/08/twisted-dimensions.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://imaginingthetenthdimension.blogspot.com/2008/08/unlikely-events-and-timelessness.html" rel="nofollow">http://imaginingthetenthdimension.blogspot.com/2008/08/unlikely-events-and-timelessness.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://imaginingthetenthdimension.blogspot.com/2008/06/randomness-and-missing-96-per-cent.html" rel="nofollow">http://imaginingthetenthdimension.blogspot.com/2008/06/randomness-and-missing-96-per-cent.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 17:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Information is the shit left over after the soup has been digested.&quot;  Awesome.  =)

Yeah, I&#039;ve always thought of language as sort of a layer in the mind that comes after/above/outside-of direct experience/god/reality/whatever.  But, thanks to McLuhan, I am coming to think of this is a tendency, rather than a hard fact.  I think perhaps we can stretch communication into this realm IF we can create a new form of communication.  Don&#039;t know if math really has anything to do with this (as you were saying on Tim&#039;s blog) because as you mention here, math is a measurement.  It&#039;s through math that we make sense out of the soup, and what I want to do is see &amp; experience the soup directly, but in a communally shared manner.

This is where I think that McLuhan comes into it.  That might be the next thing that I may delve into, the way he dovetails with all of this (whatever it is) that I am exploring. 

As far as boat forms, I think what you&#039;re noticing there is the evolution of a meme (as much as I hate to give any credence to Richard Dawkins), which may be the forms that arise out of the pre-measured primordial soup.

Mass articles (there&#039;s two that I&#039;ve found) are here:

http://www.physorg.com/news146415074.html

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16095-its-confirmed-matter-is-merely-vacuum-fluctuations.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&amp;nsref=tech

Sorry, too lazy to type out the HTML there, but I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll manage.  ;)

And thanks for the recommendation, I&#039;ll have to check out that Void book.  Any chance you could provide a link or an author?  My tentative searching as so far turned up only this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Void</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Information is the shit left over after the soup has been digested.&#8221;  Awesome.  =)</p>
<p>Yeah, I&#8217;ve always thought of language as sort of a layer in the mind that comes after/above/outside-of direct experience/god/reality/whatever.  But, thanks to McLuhan, I am coming to think of this is a tendency, rather than a hard fact.  I think perhaps we can stretch communication into this realm IF we can create a new form of communication.  Don&#8217;t know if math really has anything to do with this (as you were saying on Tim&#8217;s blog) because as you mention here, math is a measurement.  It&#8217;s through math that we make sense out of the soup, and what I want to do is see &#038; experience the soup directly, but in a communally shared manner.</p>
<p>This is where I think that McLuhan comes into it.  That might be the next thing that I may delve into, the way he dovetails with all of this (whatever it is) that I am exploring. </p>
<p>As far as boat forms, I think what you&#8217;re noticing there is the evolution of a meme (as much as I hate to give any credence to Richard Dawkins), which may be the forms that arise out of the pre-measured primordial soup.</p>
<p>Mass articles (there&#8217;s two that I&#8217;ve found) are here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.physorg.com/news146415074.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.physorg.com/news146415074.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16095-its-confirmed-matter-is-merely-vacuum-fluctuations.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&#038;nsref=tech" rel="nofollow">http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16095-its-confirmed-matter-is-merely-vacuum-fluctuations.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&#038;nsref=tech</a></p>
<p>Sorry, too lazy to type out the HTML there, but I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll manage.  ;)</p>
<p>And thanks for the recommendation, I&#8217;ll have to check out that Void book.  Any chance you could provide a link or an author?  My tentative searching as so far turned up only this:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Void" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Void</a></p>
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		<title>By: speedbird</title>
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		<dc:creator>speedbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 09:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SO much to think about.

Well, heck, so I&#039;ve got a scientific viewpoint here, of sorts. I&#039;d call &#039;data&#039; what you get from a measurement. That pre-existing stuff, the quantum soup from which measurements coalesce like dumplings... that pre-existent stuff is /much better/ than data. So I feel that the &#039;everything is information&#039; guys have always been missing a trick. Information is the shit left over after the soup has been digested.

But maybe that&#039;s all semantics. What&#039;s a word anyway? A label for a bit of quantum soup, a way of making sense of it. I mean, that is, if it makes sense, the sense of the soup was pre-existent and the word follows it. So, in the case of /true/ Words, in the beginning was the Word. It&#039;s surprisingly easy to make up false words.

As for McLuhan&#039;s electric tribe, for me digitization has only taken us ever further from that 60&#039;s vision. Digits are an extension of fingers, and we&#039;re living in a stranglehold.

I&#039;d like to read the mass article... presumably that&#039;s about CERN and the search for Higgs? The only half-decent explanation of that I&#039;ve read was in a little book called &#039;Void&#039; (heartily recommended, for also having a good stab at the nastiness of general relativity).

I went recently to the UK National Maritime Museum in Falmouth, as part of a pilgrimage to the end of the world. What struck me was how boats have always come round again throughout history, the same /form/ being realised through different /media/. And the same thing when you see the relics of Roman empire in the British museum, it&#039;s like an Asterix book, you have to laugh. The /form/ is primary, and some of them have a reality more real than any of their instances. I really think we have to lose this word &#039;data&#039;; it&#039;s clouding the vision. There are Things that pre-exist that, /which computers can&#039;t touch/.

It&#039;s early and my head&#039;s a bit fuzzy, so I don&#039;t know how any of that came across. Just a brain dump, probably full of all sorts of preconceptions. I&#039;d certainly like to read more of your writings about all this kind of stuff, thanx.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SO much to think about.</p>
<p>Well, heck, so I&#8217;ve got a scientific viewpoint here, of sorts. I&#8217;d call &#8216;data&#8217; what you get from a measurement. That pre-existing stuff, the quantum soup from which measurements coalesce like dumplings&#8230; that pre-existent stuff is /much better/ than data. So I feel that the &#8216;everything is information&#8217; guys have always been missing a trick. Information is the shit left over after the soup has been digested.</p>
<p>But maybe that&#8217;s all semantics. What&#8217;s a word anyway? A label for a bit of quantum soup, a way of making sense of it. I mean, that is, if it makes sense, the sense of the soup was pre-existent and the word follows it. So, in the case of /true/ Words, in the beginning was the Word. It&#8217;s surprisingly easy to make up false words.</p>
<p>As for McLuhan&#8217;s electric tribe, for me digitization has only taken us ever further from that 60&#8242;s vision. Digits are an extension of fingers, and we&#8217;re living in a stranglehold.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to read the mass article&#8230; presumably that&#8217;s about CERN and the search for Higgs? The only half-decent explanation of that I&#8217;ve read was in a little book called &#8216;Void&#8217; (heartily recommended, for also having a good stab at the nastiness of general relativity).</p>
<p>I went recently to the UK National Maritime Museum in Falmouth, as part of a pilgrimage to the end of the world. What struck me was how boats have always come round again throughout history, the same /form/ being realised through different /media/. And the same thing when you see the relics of Roman empire in the British museum, it&#8217;s like an Asterix book, you have to laugh. The /form/ is primary, and some of them have a reality more real than any of their instances. I really think we have to lose this word &#8216;data&#8217;; it&#8217;s clouding the vision. There are Things that pre-exist that, /which computers can&#8217;t touch/.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s early and my head&#8217;s a bit fuzzy, so I don&#8217;t know how any of that came across. Just a brain dump, probably full of all sorts of preconceptions. I&#8217;d certainly like to read more of your writings about all this kind of stuff, thanx.</p>
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