<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Erik Drexler on How To Learn About Everything</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.reclusland.com/compass/2009/05/27/erik-drexler-on-how-to-lear-about-everything/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.reclusland.com/compass/2009/05/27/erik-drexler-on-how-to-lear-about-everything/</link>
	<description></description>
	<lastBuildDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:04:54 -0700</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: speedbird</title>
		<link>http://www.reclusland.com/compass/2009/05/27/erik-drexler-on-how-to-lear-about-everything/comment-page-1/#comment-3104</link>
		<dc:creator>speedbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 07:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.reclusland.com/compass/?p=1571#comment-3104</guid>
		<description>Fook, talk about a zeitgiest...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fook, talk about a zeitgiest&#8230;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.reclusland.com/compass/2009/05/27/erik-drexler-on-how-to-lear-about-everything/comment-page-1/#comment-3096</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 17:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.reclusland.com/compass/?p=1571#comment-3096</guid>
		<description>Ha!  Hey speedbird, you&#039;re not the only one.

Check out this comment from Kevin Kelly&#039;s blog:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.kk.org/newrules/blog/2009/06/technology-has-become-our-cult.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I don&#039;t need a 3G system and ugly cell towers to outsmart the gaggles of texting, lane-swerving scatterbrains--&lt;strong&gt;I just need a good book, pad and pencil, natural light, and a calm, focused mind.&lt;/strong&gt; It&#039;s more noble to deny technology&#039;s claim to life&#039;s center, more sane to breathe deeply once in a while in actual reality, as opposed to somebody else&#039;s fake pixel representation of it.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha!  Hey speedbird, you&#8217;re not the only one.</p>
<p>Check out this comment from Kevin Kelly&#8217;s blog:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kk.org/newrules/blog/2009/06/technology-has-become-our-cult.php" rel="nofollow">I don&#8217;t need a 3G system and ugly cell towers to outsmart the gaggles of texting, lane-swerving scatterbrains&#8211;<strong>I just need a good book, pad and pencil, natural light, and a calm, focused mind.</strong> It&#8217;s more noble to deny technology&#8217;s claim to life&#8217;s center, more sane to breathe deeply once in a while in actual reality, as opposed to somebody else&#8217;s fake pixel representation of it.</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.reclusland.com/compass/2009/05/27/erik-drexler-on-how-to-lear-about-everything/comment-page-1/#comment-3095</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.reclusland.com/compass/?p=1571#comment-3095</guid>
		<description>Yeah, I was really impressed by that description.

&lt;blockquote&gt;The aim of this sort of work is a state of mind where holes in the knowledge start to become blatantly obvious.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s what I was trying to get at with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reclusland.com/compass/2008/06/23/icebergs/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my old iceberg essay&lt;/a&gt;, closing up the holes in the knowledge of self.  Didn&#039;t really realize those connections at the time, of course, but still.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I was really impressed by that description.</p>
<blockquote><p>The aim of this sort of work is a state of mind where holes in the knowledge start to become blatantly obvious.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s what I was trying to get at with <a href="http://www.reclusland.com/compass/2008/06/23/icebergs/" rel="nofollow">my old iceberg essay</a>, closing up the holes in the knowledge of self.  Didn&#8217;t really realize those connections at the time, of course, but still.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: speedbird</title>
		<link>http://www.reclusland.com/compass/2009/05/27/erik-drexler-on-how-to-lear-about-everything/comment-page-1/#comment-3093</link>
		<dc:creator>speedbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.reclusland.com/compass/?p=1571#comment-3093</guid>
		<description>Wow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://www.reclusland.com/compass/2009/05/27/erik-drexler-on-how-to-lear-about-everything/comment-page-1/#comment-3090</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 14:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.reclusland.com/compass/?p=1571#comment-3090</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The aim of this sort of work is a state of mind where holes in the knowledge start to become blatantly obvious. Some things will niggle and refuse to make sense. After a while, you have to trust that your intuition knows where to dig. That’s when a good investigator first begins to bring the big guns of Method to bear. This kind of digging requires a certain calming of the monkey-mind; first, to read-around in more detail to analyse the disconnect precisely, then to stare really hard at the gap until something becomes apparent.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think you may have just described meditation, turned outwards instead of inwards.  Take that exact same approach to your own awareness and that&#039;s exactly how to meditate.  Or at least, that&#039;s how I&#039;ve experienced it. &quot;Turn the light back on itself&quot;, as the Buddha said.  The scientific method applied to the self...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The aim of this sort of work is a state of mind where holes in the knowledge start to become blatantly obvious. Some things will niggle and refuse to make sense. After a while, you have to trust that your intuition knows where to dig. That’s when a good investigator first begins to bring the big guns of Method to bear. This kind of digging requires a certain calming of the monkey-mind; first, to read-around in more detail to analyse the disconnect precisely, then to stare really hard at the gap until something becomes apparent.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think you may have just described meditation, turned outwards instead of inwards.  Take that exact same approach to your own awareness and that&#8217;s exactly how to meditate.  Or at least, that&#8217;s how I&#8217;ve experienced it. &#8220;Turn the light back on itself&#8221;, as the Buddha said.  The scientific method applied to the self&#8230;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: speedbird</title>
		<link>http://www.reclusland.com/compass/2009/05/27/erik-drexler-on-how-to-lear-about-everything/comment-page-1/#comment-3084</link>
		<dc:creator>speedbird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 08:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.reclusland.com/compass/?p=1571#comment-3084</guid>
		<description>Yeah, this is cool, nice to see it written down and admitted somewhere.

There&#039;s a balance. When you&#039;re first introduced to a subject, this is the thing to do. It&#039;s also something the Net is quite good at (shock! horror!), finding things around a topic. It&#039;s what new postgraduate students are encouraged to do (or were, back when I was in that world) - though undergraduates tend to be steered away from this kind of enquiry. Part of the reason for that is that the Net is /so/ easy to dredge that most modern students enter University with the notion that reading Net-dredge is the ONLY form of learning. Many even leave with this idea. (A lot of them get a passing grade, which is a national disgrace.) Another reason is that you get a LOT of sludge in the Net, through which it takes a certain amount of experience to sift for the buried treasure.

The aim of this sort of work is a state of mind where holes in the knowledge start to become blatantly obvious. Some things will niggle and refuse to make sense. After a while, you have to trust that your intuition knows where to dig. That&#039;s when a good investigator first begins to bring the big guns of Method to bear. This kind of digging requires a certain calming of the monkey-mind; first, to read-around in more detail to analyse the disconnect precisely, then to stare really hard at the gap until something becomes apparent. I find modern I.T. very poor for this calm kind of thought. Pencil, paper, a good book and frequent walks round the block is the way to go at that point.

*

A friend of mine is a University lecturer. For several years now he has had trouble with students answering essay questions by copying out the Wikipedia page verbatim. In recent months he has hit upon a solution: with every problem, he presents the students with all the relevant Wikipedia entries /as a starting point/.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, this is cool, nice to see it written down and admitted somewhere.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a balance. When you&#8217;re first introduced to a subject, this is the thing to do. It&#8217;s also something the Net is quite good at (shock! horror!), finding things around a topic. It&#8217;s what new postgraduate students are encouraged to do (or were, back when I was in that world) &#8211; though undergraduates tend to be steered away from this kind of enquiry. Part of the reason for that is that the Net is /so/ easy to dredge that most modern students enter University with the notion that reading Net-dredge is the ONLY form of learning. Many even leave with this idea. (A lot of them get a passing grade, which is a national disgrace.) Another reason is that you get a LOT of sludge in the Net, through which it takes a certain amount of experience to sift for the buried treasure.</p>
<p>The aim of this sort of work is a state of mind where holes in the knowledge start to become blatantly obvious. Some things will niggle and refuse to make sense. After a while, you have to trust that your intuition knows where to dig. That&#8217;s when a good investigator first begins to bring the big guns of Method to bear. This kind of digging requires a certain calming of the monkey-mind; first, to read-around in more detail to analyse the disconnect precisely, then to stare really hard at the gap until something becomes apparent. I find modern I.T. very poor for this calm kind of thought. Pencil, paper, a good book and frequent walks round the block is the way to go at that point.</p>
<p>*</p>
<p>A friend of mine is a University lecturer. For several years now he has had trouble with students answering essay questions by copying out the Wikipedia page verbatim. In recent months he has hit upon a solution: with every problem, he presents the students with all the relevant Wikipedia entries /as a starting point/.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ted</title>
		<link>http://www.reclusland.com/compass/2009/05/27/erik-drexler-on-how-to-lear-about-everything/comment-page-1/#comment-2817</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 23:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.reclusland.com/compass/?p=1571#comment-2817</guid>
		<description>Wait! I want to lear! This is about learning? I guess I am not so smart after all! too bad....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait! I want to lear! This is about learning? I guess I am not so smart after all! too bad&#8230;.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ted</title>
		<link>http://www.reclusland.com/compass/2009/05/27/erik-drexler-on-how-to-lear-about-everything/comment-page-1/#comment-2774</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 19:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.reclusland.com/compass/?p=1571#comment-2774</guid>
		<description>Hmm....That&#039;s exactly what I&#039;ve done all my life. I must be smart!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230;.That&#8217;s exactly what I&#8217;ve done all my life. I must be smart!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
