Buddhism Dharma can’t used to “attack” people opinions. It is not about a battle how Popeye defeat Brutus.

Exactly, Anonym. I certainly agree with you.

What I see here though is not a battle, more a test. I see Krishnamurti kind of feeling out Chogyum Trungpa, trying to get a reaction out of him. Not to prove a point, or to “win” anything, just to see how Chogyum Trungpa reacts to this kind of pressure. That’s just my take on it though.

Or maybe both, but we’ll probably never know for sure.

Anonym, I am curious about wakakak too. It seems to be an Indonesian phrase (from my google search), but I do not know what it means. Could you clarify?

One thing I will say in Krishnamurti’s defense is I don’t think he cared at all that he came off this way. Either he had no idea and was a crazy old blabbermouth, or he was doing it on purpose to create an effect. Ted, I noticed the feel of a dharma battle as well here, and it feels to me like Krishnamurti is almost testing Chogyam, trying to make him lose that gravity and enter the dialogue on the level that Krishnamurti is presenting it. His first question (to a Tibetan monk) is “why meditate?” Why would he ask that? He seems to be baiting Chogyam a bit…

Given the lucidity of Krishnamurti’s thought, I’m inclined to partially entertain the idea that Krishnamurti was up to more than it seems here. Its almost as if the words are just cover for something more important, and the important things is whats going on under the words.

the other always think died as such a big deal but live no-taste, flat coke, zero sugar, wakakak haunted by cholesterol ha.ha.

I love this, hilarious! Either way, Krishnamurti was certainly haunted by something.

In this case though, I get the feeling he was sort of testing Trungpa Rinpoche a little bit, pressing him a little bit to see what kind of reaction he could get. Maybe, maybe not, but either way its fun to watch.