Intelligence? — Reclusland

January 21, 2010

- Intelligence? -

There’s some humbling news from the chemical world for anyone who has ever found themselves lost in a garden maze. A simple droplet of organic solvent can find its way through a complicated labyrinth with nothing more to go on than a slight pH difference.

Makes we wonder how much of our decision making is really just a more advanced form of chemistry and logic…

“The highest that a man can attain is to be able to do.” - Gurdjieff

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See, I really like that quote

“The highest that a man can attain is to be able to do.” – Gurdjieff

To do you have to have an “I”

I don’t think its as common a state to be in as we let on. But once you have a bit of an I you can easily overpower others weak wills, if you were so inclined. Which would be unethical, so probably the most Spiritually advanced people probably don’t but a lot of powerful people do because powerful people have more self mastery than most other people.

Comment by Ted — January 21, 2010 @ 8:44 pm

The thing about having an “I” is the “I” is constant. It is not one “I” now and a different “I” later (fun article on that here). But the thing about truly having a single “I” is that you find you don’t really need anything from anyone else, you finally feel complete in yourself, and you can more easily see how much everyone else is acting

Though I wouldn’t say I’m anywhere near that myself, I do know that as I do more work on myself, I want to dominate people a lot less. I’m just generally more happy, naturally. The thing is, a dominating powerful person might have more self mastery than someone who’s never tried to get any, but as you say, its only partial. The more people who find complete wholeness, the less people will give a shit about the incomplete powerful ones.

Comment by Ian — January 22, 2010 @ 9:36 am

Well that’s what we can hope. Or The partially whole powerful people will destroy everything and then the experiment will end.

The problem is that some people are masters of controling money. Its a symbol that can be given in exchange for anything in the world. Therefore it can be used to control everything in the world.

Its like instead of wanting to do different things and creating different sigils, you just make one sigil and use it like a voodoo doll to do your will.

The problem is hubris. The way money works is pretty complex, few people have a good grasp of how the financial system works. Probably no one fully understands it. But the Money Masters come a hell of a lot closer to understanding money then they do understanding the whole world.

But through money and through other people they have convinced to buy into this system, they can exercise massive influence over this complex world they are so removed from and understand so little about. They are deluded really, the way narcissists delude themselves.

Comment by Ted — January 22, 2010 @ 4:30 pm

The one thing money can’t get you is true completeness. I’m all for doing everything we can to make that experiment come out successfully. Fuck everything else, it’s just noise.

I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with money, just that its not an answer in itself.

Comment by Ian — January 22, 2010 @ 4:54 pm

I think the experiment is not going as bad as we sometimes think. I think the universe is in a state of evolution and will eventually reach perfection. I think there may be ways it can run sub optimally, taking into account people fucking things up.

But perhaps the optimum level is for every being to be fully conscious and exercize sovereignty as a co-creator.

My slight disagragreement with Tim is that he seemed to be describing this optimum level already being in operation, but I don’t think we are there yet.

But maybe he is just describing the sub optimum level. There is a lot of elegance in the Universe either way, if you just look.

Comment by Ted — January 22, 2010 @ 6:17 pm

There is the idea of the cosmic joke, though, that anything you do doesn’t really matter. That we are just here to be enlightened and realize this and move on.

I’d rather try to set some goals, actually submit articles, get paid for my art, make enough money to have a little more personal autonomy, and quality possessions, attract a beautiful woman and build a life of creating beauty together. Enjoy life.

But I guess you can do this even if the cosmic joke is true also.

Comment by Ted — January 22, 2010 @ 6:24 pm

>> just make one sigil and use it like a voodoo doll to do your will

Coool…

One Ring to rule them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the land of Mordor where the shadows lie

Comment by speedbird — January 25, 2010 @ 3:30 am

>> A simple droplet of organic solvent can find its way through a complicated labyrinth with nothing more to go on than a slight pH difference.

‘Chipshopness’, of course ;D

Comment by speedbird — January 25, 2010 @ 3:35 am

As for Money, clearly there’s something up when a Bank has the power to create debt that can never be repayed…

Comment by speedbird — January 25, 2010 @ 8:32 am

@Ted

describing this optimum level already being in operation,

Well, the thing is, I don’t think perfection can be reached, I think its a direction we can go in. So if you can imagine a better level, the best way to get to that level (and beyond) is act as if its already the way things are. Because THAT’S the cosmic joke: Things only ever are the way we act them to be. Of course, this doesn’t work so well when we try to use it to our advantage, and that’s the flipside of the joke, we actually have to believe them to be that way for it to work.

I guess you can do this even if the cosmic joke is true also.

Certainly. Just so long as you’re not telling yourself its impossible. :)

@speedbird:
Nice call on the Lord of the Rings quote. Money can often be used to make one invisible as well. Maybe there’s something to the idea that centrally dominated control and money are more intimately tied than we think. Money makes power movable…

‘Chipshopness’

I’ll get through any labyrinth in minutes if there’s a good fish and chip shop at the end of it, malt vinegar included.

when a Bank has the power to create debt that can never be repayed

It’s called slavery (or it should be). I like the old Hebrew tradition of a Jubilee year, when all debts are considered null and void. I think it was like once a decade or something, and obviously you wouldn’t loan someone a lot of money a few months prior, but its nice when a system understands the need for and admits an occasional escape hatch.

Comment by Ian — January 25, 2010 @ 11:19 am

>> It’s called slavery

Debt slavery.

Apparently there’s always more debt in the world than money to repay it. And that’s how the whole thing works.

>> Lord of the Rings

Kudos to Ted! I have no idea how it’s taken me until now to twig the relation between the One Ring and money. Nature of the beast, I guess.

Comment by speedbird — January 25, 2010 @ 2:36 pm

Glad to help!

There are no doubt benefits to not having these connections strongly in your awareness at all times. I get too into it sometimes. But I am thinking The Lord of the Rings is not only a metaphor but that also the reality the story mirrors is equally dark in parts!

Its interesting about rings. I recently heard of some esoteric cult leader type women who gave her disciples rings, through which she would psychically feed off of their energy.

The thing with money and Vampirism is that in order to work the money must be under centralized control. Because if people exercised personal sovereignty and were free to set their own value to things, through barter, community currencies, etc. It won’t work. You can’t control that many variables. But it works for the ordinary people doing it, just not the Overlords.

All kinds of totally chaotic systems benefit people and other living things. Life is really complex.

Its a lot easier to understand the Overlords and what they are after. They are just basically control freaks, that want to control everything, more and more everyday. When we give our power over to them it creates a psychic bond and they are able to eat our life energy.

Example: Obama, save me! As your slave I need you to take better care of me! I don’t want to take responsibility for my own health! Give me free government healthcare!

Basic aspects of human existence are continually presented as “problems” that can only be solved with further entrenchment of systems of command and control.

Comment by Ted — January 25, 2010 @ 3:53 pm

The year of jubilee seems to have only applied to jews. It was perfectly acceptable for Israel to control people of other Nations through debt slavery. In fact that was the idea, to rule the world. Its in the Bible.

Comment by Ted — January 25, 2010 @ 3:57 pm

*ducks for stones*

Comment by Ted — January 25, 2010 @ 3:58 pm

>> further entrenchment of systems of command and control

Care needed here. There’s a massive lobby to replace things like Public Health infrastructure with even more debt slavery. I believe there is a valid place for communal activity which opposes the Ring.

Comment by speedbird — January 25, 2010 @ 4:09 pm

I blogged about this if anyone is interested.

One thing I am thinking, but haven’t blogged about is that the root of monotheism, might actually be Lucifer worship.

Because really its fucking ridiculous, reading the Old Testament to think its describing some mystical concept of the “ground of all being” instead of a tribal demon.

Comment by Ted — January 25, 2010 @ 4:11 pm

The Ground of all being wants you to crush your enemies and rule the world, because you cut off your foreskin and sacrifice animals and smear blood on an altar? One thing that really struck me about Tim’s article is where he said that any word removed from context is gibberish.

Strikes me as the secret name of God. Which still exists and is passed around in magickal circles. Its part of kaballah. It has no context with other words and is seen as being totally apart from the world.

so called “Western Occultism” and magic is merely Kaballah syncretized with Rune magic from Odin worship.

The Royal bloodlines are thought to be a mix of the descendants of Odin and the descendants of Jesus Christ, Through Charlemagne. These Royal bloodlines still rule the World behind the scenes through Finance and Military Intelligence organizations. Trace any of these things to their source: Drug smuggling, child prostitution, gun running, central banking and you come across European nobility at the root of it.

So anyway, some random dude, can get into magick and the occult through the internet and reading books and can have some success. I am thinking that it may be the case that its because of the powerful inertia of this Satanic Magickal program that is already going on. There is only one Magickal program going on.

Tolkein understood this.

Comment by Tedll — January 25, 2010 @ 4:29 pm

Actually, I want to modify that part. There is good and bad magic. the bad is when you seek to control other wills. Ultimately there is one program in place to do that and it involves a program to control all wills by one entity. There is tremendous inertia behind that.

Going back to the topic, being able to say (I) and recognizing other (I)’s is about breaking free of that inertia.

Comment by Tedll — January 25, 2010 @ 4:44 pm

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