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February 22, 2010

- Tilopa on Good Times -

“The problem is not enjoyment; the problem is attachment.”


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  1. Actually, attachment itself isn’t really the problem either.

    The problem is having the one without the other. How to do that…?

    Comment by Ian — February 22, 2010 @ 3:50 pm


  2. I thinks just learning about the underlying nature of reality. How everything is composed of energy. Maybe life should be more like doing ice sculptures and performance art and enjoying that.

    As opposed to trying to build permanent things. I dunno though.

    Comment by Ted — February 23, 2010 @ 8:53 am


  3. Have you read the Kama Sutra?

    Comment by Ted — February 23, 2010 @ 8:53 am


  4. I ask because it talks about the 4 aims of man

    1.Dharma
    2.Artha
    3.Kama
    4.Moksha

    http://www.hinduwebsite.com/hinduism/h_aims.asp

    Hinduism seems more balanced to me.

    Comment by Ted — February 26, 2010 @ 8:18 am


  5. I haven’t read the kama sutra, but I’ve read the Bhagavad Gita though, and enjoyed that. They’ve got systems and explanations for everything.

    Sometimes it seems to me that they really did have things figured out, though there’s a lot to read through. Are you getting into Hinduism? The whole karma yoga thing has always held a big appeal for me, that everything is done selflessly, with no attachment at all to the fruits of the effort. Work for works sake, let the chips fall where they may, for the glory of Brahma. Very Zen, except for the whole Brahma part… :)

    Comment by Ian — February 27, 2010 @ 9:00 am


  6. It seems to me like nHinduism in my area is like “Hey, We’re from India let’s stick together!” type of thing. Its just ethnic. Plus I heard there really isn’t such a thing as Hinduism really. Its just a conglomeration of stuff. I really miss my copy I had of the Bhagavad Gita “A walk through for Westerners” by Jack Hawley. It really defies belief how advanced they were. I used to try to get into the Old Testament when I was a Christian and had to keep reminding myself that they were primitive people and didn’t understand certain things. But The Gita is not like that at all and this is older. There is just no way around the fact that the Old Testament is mostly about violent xenophobia, with some more enlightened seeming stuff mixed in.

    I’ve read an English translation of the Koran, could make neither head nor tails of that. The Book of Mormon is unreadable. The Gnostic gospels are kind of interesting I guess, but still don’t really resonate with me. So the Bhagavad Gita is the only scripture I really get into. I heard its not really even Hindu.
    Vipa
    I’d like to maybe get more into yoga and Vipassana meditation.

    Comment by Ted — February 27, 2010 @ 10:30 am


  7. yeah, there’s not much mysticism in Hindu communities that I know of, which is not to say it doesn’t exist. Just that mostly its practiced as a form a worship, rather than self-work. But they did a hell of a job explaining things. Yoga and meditation definitely go hand-in-hand in my experience, a nice yin-yang kind of thing, head-body. Setting up a regular practice of either (or both) is worth it. You might want to look into the Vedanta as well…? Any way, good luck.

    Comment by Ian — February 27, 2010 @ 11:48 am



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